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  The King of the North as you Never Heard ity Explained Before

  by raymond frantz in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  https://youtu.be/w32nome-k20?si=a8bhxh5tjrkomgzq.

  rather than seeing the king of the north as the final opponent of god’s people, i propose that daniel 11 points to a completely different figure.

  while the watchtower society focuses on the struggle between these two kings, they overlook a third entity mentioned in verse 40, but let’s ready this verse first from the new world translation.

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  Touchofgrey

  Biblical scholars have Daniel written around 165 BCE so written after many of the events recorded so not a book of prophecy.

  So it has no meaning for us today.
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  Further Crisis looming for JW org re Safeguarding ?

  by Phizzy in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  if you substitute j.w org for c of e this really hits home : (from bbc news site) :.

  the church of england risks further crisis if it fails to adopt a sweeping new independent system to keep people safe, the former head of a national inquiry into child sexual abuse has said.

  (prof. alexis jay).. "i think it's absolutely necessary because church safeguarding as it stands falls below the standards of secular organisations, and i do not think that can continue when it has also led to such serious weaknesses," she told the bbc..

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  Self policing should not be a option for members of the churches and other organisations, they failed to protect the victims and by not reporting to the proper authorities and covering the abuse and denying that they knew anything should disqualify them. Staying in a religion or organisation that covered up the abuse is almost like giving tacit support .one of the reasons I could no longer remain a jw when I was made aware of the Australian royal commission.

  Safeguarding officers should be truely independent and have no association with the organisations involved.

  Why not make these religions and organisations fund the safeguarding officers .
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  How to spot wolves in sheep's clothing!

  by BoogerMan in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  w64 11/1 pp.

  645-646 wolves in sheep’s covering - "can you detect them?

  how can you avoid becoming their prey?....to his first-century disciples jesus sounded a warning that applies to us today with even greater force: “look out that you are not misled; for many will come on the basis of my name, saying, ‘i am he [anointed],’ and, ‘the due time has approached.’ do not go after them.” (luke 21:8) .

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  The gospel of Luke was written around 80ce by a unknown author and to make his account seem a genuine account he includes this statement about wolves in sheep's clothing,

  There were many jesus stories going around at this time by other authors with possible claims that their version was the true one .

  So just like there are many versions and beliefs of jesus today each claiming includeing jws that they have the true version and they each say that the others are wrong and trying to mislead people today

  They all can't be right but they all can be wrong.
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  How to spot wolves in sheep's clothing!

  by BoogerMan in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  w64 11/1 pp.

  645-646 wolves in sheep’s covering - "can you detect them?

  how can you avoid becoming their prey?....to his first-century disciples jesus sounded a warning that applies to us today with even greater force: “look out that you are not misled; for many will come on the basis of my name, saying, ‘i am he [anointed],’ and, ‘the due time has approached.’ do not go after them.” (luke 21:8) .

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  Anyone claiming that they have the true religion is are wolves in sheep's clothing,that is anyone who manipulates and coercive people to follow their beliefs that they invented as true.
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  "instructions that aren't sound by a human standpoint"

  by mikeflood in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  what could be "an instruction not sound by a human standpoint"?.

  i'm going by dissolving their legal entities...any guesses?.

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  Gaslighting

  Physiological manipulation of a person or group over a extended period of time that causes the victim to question their own thoughts and perception of reality, to lead to confusion and a dependency on the perpetrator.

  A act or practice of grossly misleading someone especially for ones own advantage.

  It's happens in every walk of life, religion, politics end even among members of your own family and friends.
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  Do children still get destroyed at Armageddon?

  by Anony Mous in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  i know back in the day, that was taught, that if the parents were going to be destroyed, so would the children.

  i just can't easily find reference to anything.

  this thinking has been used to justify some egregious behavior towards children and their parents such as exclusion of children from jw family - why worry, the end is near, all will work itself out then - the end didn't come though.

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  at Armageddon ... parents will be held accountable for their children, and children will suffer for the failure of their parents.” - Watchtower 1968 Feb 1 pp.83-84

  No wonder why our parents were so hard on us when we were kids ,dragging us to meeting and ministry as though there life depended on it .
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  Who's got it wrong - Daniel or the evil slave?

  by BoogerMan in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  w98 2/1 p. 22 par.

  16 - "what of the dead who are resurrected on earth?...they also will have to love the name of jehovah, ministering to him, offering acceptable sacrifices......".

  (daniel 9:26, 27) "and after the 62 weeks, mes·siʹah will be cut off, with nothing for himself.....and at the half of the week, he will cause sacrifice......to cease.

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  They both can't be right but they can both be wrong.
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  Beliefs clarified - A big fat WTF for 2025

  by ukpimo in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  jehovah’s witnesses have an official page for clarified beliefs they encourage elders, ministerial servants, regular pioneers, as well as all the rest of the elite, to keep up to date with:.

  https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/1200277174.

  2025 has a curious clarification:.

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  It's all about control.

  It's what high control group do
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  Canada exploring changes to tax rules that exempt religious organizations

  by Scully in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  https://www.christianpost.com/news/evangelicals-oppose-removal-of-tax-status-in-canadian-proposal.html.

  the proposed change will revoke charitable status of canadian churches who have an anti-abortion position, and will not give tax exemptions to organizations whose sole claim is to promote religion, which is the basic claim for all jw related entities in canada.

  this will be interesting!.

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  Jhine

  So do employees of company's pay tax to fund them and companies and corporations also pay taxes (some more than others) so why should religion's be any different?
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  Canada exploring changes to tax rules that exempt religious organizations

  by Scully in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  https://www.christianpost.com/news/evangelicals-oppose-removal-of-tax-status-in-canadian-proposal.html.

  the proposed change will revoke charitable status of canadian churches who have an anti-abortion position, and will not give tax exemptions to organizations whose sole claim is to promote religion, which is the basic claim for all jw related entities in canada.

  this will be interesting!.

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  Religions are a snare and a racket so they should pay taxes to help fund the health and social services in their country's. Instead of sitting on billions of assets.